You'll remember the government accuses Ford of making threats against government witnesses.
Tim Willis, who worked as an undercover informant on the case, testified Ford threatened to kill him.
The conversation was recorded and played as evidence during the case.
"If you take and you go and record covnversations between me and my friends on the golf course, there's no telling what you'd hear," Scholl says.
"Listen to how things are said. Do you believe Tim Willis thinks he's threatened? Tim Willis will say anything that he gets paid to say on that witness stand," says Scholl.
"Listen to the context of the conversation. Listen to how they were talking," says Scholl. "They want to make you think this is something different."